(( WARNING )) DYNOFLO ENGINES BAD DEALINGS
04-11-2007, 05:46 PM
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This is how it is spelled....
a·pol·o·gy(-pl-j)
n. pl. a·pol·o·gies
1. An acknowledgment expressing regret or asking pardon for a fault or offense.
2.
a. A formal justification or defense.
b. An explanation or excuse: "The consequence of those measures will be the best apology for my conduct" Daniel Defoe.
3. An inferior substitute: The sagging cot was a poor apology for a bed.
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Noun 1. apology - an expression of regret at having caused trouble for someone; "he wrote a letter of apology to the hostess"
acknowledgement, acknowledgment - a statement acknowledging something or someone; "she must have seen him but she gave no sign of acknowledgment"; "the preface contained an acknowledgment of those who had helped her
n. pl. a·pol·o·gies
1. An acknowledgment expressing regret or asking pardon for a fault or offense.
2.
a. A formal justification or defense.
b. An explanation or excuse: "The consequence of those measures will be the best apology for my conduct" Daniel Defoe.
3. An inferior substitute: The sagging cot was a poor apology for a bed.
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Noun 1. apology - an expression of regret at having caused trouble for someone; "he wrote a letter of apology to the hostess"
acknowledgement, acknowledgment - a statement acknowledging something or someone; "she must have seen him but she gave no sign of acknowledgment"; "the preface contained an acknowledgment of those who had helped her
04-11-2007, 06:11 PM
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What have you proven Scot :?:
That you cannot admit that your company made a mistake :?:
When you & George Douklias talked last Friday He asked you for all the parts, first you refused.
And just to get it over with he said if you would send him just a block he would send the broken one back.
You agreed.
Then you stated you needed the block back first so you could take specs from it for the new block...Yeah Rite.
You also told George that it would take :?: HOW LONG? Scot please refresh my memory was it up to 3 months :?: for him to recieve A block back.
The reason why is that you only had 3 of those blocks in stock and they were already promised out and you would have to get one from Dart.
You told everyone on this forum your company has over 2 million in inventory but you don't have a block to send to George :?:
You could have had Dart dropship a block to Southern Style Racing Engines! In a couple of days it would be there and been done with it.
I will tell you something George might not be a mechanic but he is a buisnessman.
After he realized what you were trying to pull He was scared to death about the whole deal do to the fact He on his own did some reasearch on the internet about DynoFlo and saw that even the motors You made good on Took absolutely forever!
He also saw how you have treated SOO many other people.
And to be frank, it scared me too. I never said you built Junk motors just this one.
I'm glad you feel you can run your mouth and attempt to belittle me and anyone that might even sneeze in your direction.
First you blamed Me for the rodbolts being loose and now your accusing me for YOU not wanting to stand up and help your customer out at all.
You didn't want to in the first place, but you jumped at the chance to make this go away quickly and then you still got greedy as far as I'm concerned and wanted him to jump through your hoops and make him wait .
That you cannot admit that your company made a mistake :?:
When you & George Douklias talked last Friday He asked you for all the parts, first you refused.
And just to get it over with he said if you would send him just a block he would send the broken one back.
You agreed.
Then you stated you needed the block back first so you could take specs from it for the new block...Yeah Rite.
You also told George that it would take :?: HOW LONG? Scot please refresh my memory was it up to 3 months :?: for him to recieve A block back.
The reason why is that you only had 3 of those blocks in stock and they were already promised out and you would have to get one from Dart.
You told everyone on this forum your company has over 2 million in inventory but you don't have a block to send to George :?:
You could have had Dart dropship a block to Southern Style Racing Engines! In a couple of days it would be there and been done with it.
I will tell you something George might not be a mechanic but he is a buisnessman.
After he realized what you were trying to pull He was scared to death about the whole deal do to the fact He on his own did some reasearch on the internet about DynoFlo and saw that even the motors You made good on Took absolutely forever!
He also saw how you have treated SOO many other people.
And to be frank, it scared me too. I never said you built Junk motors just this one.
I'm glad you feel you can run your mouth and attempt to belittle me and anyone that might even sneeze in your direction.
First you blamed Me for the rodbolts being loose and now your accusing me for YOU not wanting to stand up and help your customer out at all.
You didn't want to in the first place, but you jumped at the chance to make this go away quickly and then you still got greedy as far as I'm concerned and wanted him to jump through your hoops and make him wait .
04-11-2007, 06:38 PM
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scott the only thing you proved is that your not that bright.if you look at how many people have read this you would be smart enough to no that your losing biz.you say we hind behide the screen names, i don't give my name and number to a dumbass.if you can't see the truth with the pics why would anyone want to talk to you.i guess being two feet tall pissed you off in life.
04-11-2007, 06:43 PM
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OH YEA by the way Scot I know for a fact you were aware of this even when it was in the general section Long before your name or Dynoflo name was even mentioned. You chose ONLY to post after it came over to the scammer section and your name and you company name was mentioned .
No one is tag teaming you, you just pi$$ed off alot of people with your actions and the garbage coming out of your mouth . If you could not tell that that shortblock that your Company built was still brand new then you don't know your product as good as you say you do.
Hell it still had your assembly lube still on the camshaft. Do you know how we know this? It's a different color than the lube I used on the lifters. You have all the pics to prove it.
You know I haven't posted all the pics but im gonna even the one where the waters pi$$ing out of the whole in the block when we dropped the oilpan .If you think myself or George are lying Contact George Pils at Southern Style Racing engines Ph# 727546-7000 He can verify that the motor was still new and had never been gone thru or modified .
No one is tag teaming you, you just pi$$ed off alot of people with your actions and the garbage coming out of your mouth . If you could not tell that that shortblock that your Company built was still brand new then you don't know your product as good as you say you do.
Hell it still had your assembly lube still on the camshaft. Do you know how we know this? It's a different color than the lube I used on the lifters. You have all the pics to prove it.
You know I haven't posted all the pics but im gonna even the one where the waters pi$$ing out of the whole in the block when we dropped the oilpan .If you think myself or George are lying Contact George Pils at Southern Style Racing engines Ph# 727546-7000 He can verify that the motor was still new and had never been gone thru or modified .
04-11-2007, 07:01 PM
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Dynoflo has a point in the timeline of this block. its hard to track where the blocks been for over a year.
But if proven never run untill the time posted then yes He is liable for damage, as long as no one has touched the rod torque.
Rod torque is ultra critical, most if not all engine builders Strech them to length, this process takes a bit of time and I could not think of anyone leaving them hand tight. But stranger things have happened.
Not taking sides
just my 2C
But if proven never run untill the time posted then yes He is liable for damage, as long as no one has touched the rod torque.
Rod torque is ultra critical, most if not all engine builders Strech them to length, this process takes a bit of time and I could not think of anyone leaving them hand tight. But stranger things have happened.
Not taking sides
just my 2C
04-11-2007, 07:55 PM
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I can say this much if George Pils is stating it's due to dynotune then it is. Mr. Pils is well known in this area for racing and speaks the truth. Very outstanding person.
As for buying anything from Dynotune...... never. I am ready to replace my 383 with a new 434 and was looking at Dynotune and going to CA next month so I was checking on a flight over to see the shop and the motors. If I was going to chose them it was build the motor and I will fly out and ship it back myself. No money up front for a standard 434, if your shop can not have them in stock then you do not get my money. I don't play the rob peter to pay paul game.
NOW NO WAY IN HE_L WOULD I USE THEM. Your words and actions have lost you a sale with me.
And this is not any bull $hit.
As for buying anything from Dynotune...... never. I am ready to replace my 383 with a new 434 and was looking at Dynotune and going to CA next month so I was checking on a flight over to see the shop and the motors. If I was going to chose them it was build the motor and I will fly out and ship it back myself. No money up front for a standard 434, if your shop can not have them in stock then you do not get my money. I don't play the rob peter to pay paul game.
NOW NO WAY IN HE_L WOULD I USE THEM. Your words and actions have lost you a sale with me.
And this is not any bull $hit.
04-11-2007, 08:15 PM
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Well guys, What do thease pics say :?:.
Was it a used motor or not or was it abused?
The pics of the cylinder heads still have the blue around the valves and #s on the valves from a sharpie from when H.P.S did them.
Look at the lube still on the outer sides of the lobes and then look at the lube still on the lifters from when I installed them, 2 different lubes.
This motor was removed from the car on a friday night we had to pull the converter with the motor because it was locked up we dropped the pan even before it was on the engine stand and found the bolt in the windage tray.
There were 5 people there when all of this took place.
The next morning I stripped the motor down to the shortblock with out turning the engine over or checking any torque's. The motor was then put on a motor pallet loaded into the back of Mr Douklias truck and then transported to Southern Style Racing Engines where George Pils the owner of SSRE removed the bad rod and checked the rest of the rod bolts where he found all the remaining rod bolts to be hand tight.
I did not claim the rod bolts were loose because I checked them, The owner of SSRE found this out in front of myself, Mr Douklias and all his employee's.
Once I receive the complete breakdown & findings from SSRE I will be more than happy to post them as well.
Yes we did place the order and pay for the motor in early sept 05 but Scot how many months did it take to recieve the engine :?: and that is a point well taken but as you can see this motor is Brand New still .
Notice the surface rust where the water came out of the hole in the block :?: It wiped rite off.
Also look at the cylinder honing.
LIKE I SAID BRAND NEW
Was it a used motor or not or was it abused?
The pics of the cylinder heads still have the blue around the valves and #s on the valves from a sharpie from when H.P.S did them.
Look at the lube still on the outer sides of the lobes and then look at the lube still on the lifters from when I installed them, 2 different lubes.
This motor was removed from the car on a friday night we had to pull the converter with the motor because it was locked up we dropped the pan even before it was on the engine stand and found the bolt in the windage tray.
There were 5 people there when all of this took place.
The next morning I stripped the motor down to the shortblock with out turning the engine over or checking any torque's. The motor was then put on a motor pallet loaded into the back of Mr Douklias truck and then transported to Southern Style Racing Engines where George Pils the owner of SSRE removed the bad rod and checked the rest of the rod bolts where he found all the remaining rod bolts to be hand tight.
I did not claim the rod bolts were loose because I checked them, The owner of SSRE found this out in front of myself, Mr Douklias and all his employee's.
Once I receive the complete breakdown & findings from SSRE I will be more than happy to post them as well.
Yes we did place the order and pay for the motor in early sept 05 but Scot how many months did it take to recieve the engine :?: and that is a point well taken but as you can see this motor is Brand New still .
Notice the surface rust where the water came out of the hole in the block :?: It wiped rite off.
Also look at the cylinder honing.
LIKE I SAID BRAND NEW
04-11-2007, 09:20 PM
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Scot you stated in your first post
the engine was completely assembled by this " mechanic" not a shop. Somebody did something somewhere. He did try to tell me that we didn't torque the bolts.
Well here is your invoice on the engine Also note the date next to the piston # 09/28 where there was a piston change at your shop .
If you say that I assembled the entire engine then why did we pay you to do it :?:
the engine was completely assembled by this " mechanic" not a shop. Somebody did something somewhere. He did try to tell me that we didn't torque the bolts.
Well here is your invoice on the engine Also note the date next to the piston # 09/28 where there was a piston change at your shop .
If you say that I assembled the entire engine then why did we pay you to do it :?: