This guy is a con dont trust jayss10
11-11-2011, 05:08 AM
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Originally Posted by bcw49
I'm going to have to side with saltflat on this. How can you ask for a deposit on a vehicle you don't own or even have in your possession? JMO
11-11-2011, 05:30 AM
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I WOULD NEVER ASK ANYONE TO REMOVE ANY PARTS FROM A CAR WITHOUT A DEPOSIT. GLAD I DON'T LIVE IN UTAH WITH THOSE LAWS.
11-11-2011, 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Saltflatjunky
Ok News. I called the Utah District Attorneys Office it is illegal to try to ask for monies to be be wired or transferred before ownership has taken place of a motor vehicle. The Law is the law and according to the law it is considered a scam.
It is also illegal to skip titles of a motor vehicle (which translates in to not transferring the motor vehicle in ones name)
It is also a felony I will repeat a felony to sell a vehicle and claim it is a true Super Sport when it is not. It is called misconception of a motor vehicle.
So you young men say what you will but the law is the law
It is also illegal to skip titles of a motor vehicle (which translates in to not transferring the motor vehicle in ones name)
It is also a felony I will repeat a felony to sell a vehicle and claim it is a true Super Sport when it is not. It is called misconception of a motor vehicle.
So you young men say what you will but the law is the law
Jay lives in Indiana, so the deposit deal holds no value.
Yes, its illegal to skip titles but its not uncommon. People do it all the time and it is what it is.
You need to read his ad, it says he will give you the VIN to verify if it was a SS?
Last but not least, was it you who was wanting to buy the car or your buddy? I am confused... :wink:
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11-11-2011, 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Saltflatjunky
Someone tried to rip me off and you say I should find a hobby?
I am a retired attorney and a bishop at my church and the rest of the year I collect cars and race on the salt. I have seen 200mph 320mph and 420mph so I think my hobby list is just fine.
This is not a Forum its a game to you people.
I am a retired attorney and a bishop at my church and the rest of the year I collect cars and race on the salt. I have seen 200mph 320mph and 420mph so I think my hobby list is just fine.
This is not a Forum its a game to you people.
RETIRED ATTORNEY!!!!!! DID YOU START ANY CASES [WITHOUT A DEPOSIT---DOUBT IT
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11-11-2011, 06:30 AM
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seller has for sale a "original 71 ss" as he says in his ad, but he says he will send you the vin to verify, i would think seller should verify it 1st before he puts it up for sale,seems easy enough. i would never remove anything without a deposit, but i also would not advertise anything until i really had it in my driveway.
11-11-2011, 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by lively
Originally Posted by Saltflatjunky
Someone tried to rip me off and you say I should find a hobby?
I am a retired attorney and a bishop at my church and the rest of the year I collect cars and race on the salt. I have seen 200mph 320mph and 420mph so I think my hobby list is just fine.
This is not a Forum its a game to you people.
I am a retired attorney and a bishop at my church and the rest of the year I collect cars and race on the salt. I have seen 200mph 320mph and 420mph so I think my hobby list is just fine.
This is not a Forum its a game to you people.
RETIRED ATTORNEY!!!!!! DID YOU START ANY CASES [WITHOUT A DEPOSIT---DOUBT IT
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11-11-2011, 08:15 AM
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I never asked him to remove any parts. He offered me a rolling chassis for $18,000 then asked for a deposit. He said he would remove the motor and transmission and misc parts. I said ok I will send a driver to your door with cash.(( So again he offered me a rolling Chassis that he did not have in his possession,So I ask why would you offer a rolling chassis if you dont have a rolling chassis?
This is for everyone to know it is a law in every state you can not ask for a deposit on an item you do not own that legally belongs to a third party.
Now if I had a car that I owned then yes sir I would require a deposit before I would remove the engine. Agreed
And to the gentleman asking about if I would take a deposit for a case the answer is also yes but I was a criminal attorney!
God bless
This is for everyone to know it is a law in every state you can not ask for a deposit on an item you do not own that legally belongs to a third party.
Now if I had a car that I owned then yes sir I would require a deposit before I would remove the engine. Agreed
And to the gentleman asking about if I would take a deposit for a case the answer is also yes but I was a criminal attorney!
God bless
11-11-2011, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Saltflatjunky
I never asked him to remove any parts. He offered me a rolling chassis for $18,000 then asked for a deposit. He said he would remove the motor and transmission and misc parts. I said ok I will send a driver to your door with cash.(( So again he offered me a rolling Chassis that he did not have in his possession,So I ask why would you offer a rolling chassis if you dont have a rolling chassis?
This is for everyone to know it is a law in every state you can not ask for a deposit on an item you do not own that legally belongs to a third party.
Now if I had a car that I owned then yes sir I would require a deposit before I would remove the engine. Agreed
And to the gentleman asking about if I would take a deposit for a case the answer is also yes but I was a criminal attorney!
God bless
This is for everyone to know it is a law in every state you can not ask for a deposit on an item you do not own that legally belongs to a third party.
Now if I had a car that I owned then yes sir I would require a deposit before I would remove the engine. Agreed
And to the gentleman asking about if I would take a deposit for a case the answer is also yes but I was a criminal attorney!
God bless
please read from the bottom to the top as usual.
hi hey im not trying to be hard to deal with im just not good with all this typing i understand we cant talk on the phone ,i really have never done anything where i disassy a car with not deposit,its just a scary thing for me, i dont have alot of money and i have to make every penny count thats all
On [2011-10-19 17:34:09] Saltflatjunky wrote:
> you have the car listed now!
>
> On [2011-10-19 12:19:36] jayss10 wrote:
> > im here waiting on hearing back,im going to relist it ,you dont trust me to send me a deposit and so guess i dont trust you either,works both ways,so send your guy with the money then ill remove everything,while hes here or he can help me im just a single guy here with a 3 car garage,with a race car hobby,let me know
> >
> > On [2011-10-17 13:27:42] Saltflatjunky wrote:
> > > He has cash on him I only deal in cash no banks no checks no deposits just cash!
> > > Yes use the list as we talked about everything else stays.
> > > I would like the wheels for the price I am paying.
> > >
> > > When will it be ready to go? So he can stop pay load and leave.
> > >
> > > David Morlan
> > > In the Lord we trust
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On [2011-10-17 13:04:19] jayss10 wrote:
> > > > XXXX XXXX XX XXXX (street address x'd out),peru indiana 46970 send cash i dont like checks,let me know what you have to have with it so its ready for you, im assuming same as we talked about earlier,do you have to have the wheels wityh it or can i replace them with rollers ect.. i would like a deposit on it as i am pulling it apart
> > > >
> > > > On [2011-10-17 12:55:14] Saltflatjunky wrote:
> > > > > I will pay 15000.00 for body and rolling chassis
> > > > >
> > > > > I need location
> > > > >
> > > > > I can have my driver to your door next Monday or sooner if its ready.
> > > > >
> > > > > On [2011-10-17 01:04:07] jayss10 wrote:
> > > > > > 15,ooo and at that price i cant even buy me what i want you get what you want for that price,so thats it if not ok i understand,i wanted a 55 chevy or a chevelle 10.5 theres not 1 nice 1 on here for even close to that price,so up to you if yes lets get it done let me know what you need on the car ,ill let you know if it works for me, im the same as robert about the willys id trade it even with a motor and trans in it if it will runs 9s 1/4 mile for this complete
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On [2011-10-17 00:58:09] Saltflatjunky wrote:
> > > > > > > Ok one last time! How much do you want? I need a price. I wont play a game so give me a price please.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On [2011-10-17 00:33:15] jayss10 wrote:
> > > > > > > > and of course i will take a better cash offer also for got to say that
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On [2011-10-16 23:43:18] Saltflatjunky wrote:
> > > > > > > > > How much do you want for the body?
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11-11-2011, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by harbone66
Originally Posted by Saltflatjunky
I never asked him to remove any parts. He offered me a rolling chassis for $18,000 then asked for a deposit. He said he would remove the motor and transmission and misc parts. I said ok I will send a driver to your door with cash.(( So again he offered me a rolling Chassis that he did not have in his possession,So I ask why would you offer a rolling chassis if you dont have a rolling chassis?
This is for everyone to know it is a law in every state you can not ask for a deposit on an item you do not own that legally belongs to a third party.
Now if I had a car that I owned then yes sir I would require a deposit before I would remove the engine. Agreed
And to the gentleman asking about if I would take a deposit for a case the answer is also yes but I was a criminal attorney!
God bless
This is for everyone to know it is a law in every state you can not ask for a deposit on an item you do not own that legally belongs to a third party.
Now if I had a car that I owned then yes sir I would require a deposit before I would remove the engine. Agreed
And to the gentleman asking about if I would take a deposit for a case the answer is also yes but I was a criminal attorney!
God bless
please read from the bottom to the top as usual.
hi hey im not trying to be hard to deal with im just not good with all this typing i understand we cant talk on the phone ,i really have never done anything where i disassy a car with not deposit,its just a scary thing for me, i dont have alot of money and i have to make every penny count thats all
On [2011-10-19 17:34:09] Saltflatjunky wrote:
> you have the car listed now!
>
> On [2011-10-19 12:19:36] jayss10 wrote:
> > im here waiting on hearing back,im going to relist it ,you dont trust me to send me a deposit and so guess i dont trust you either,works both ways,so send your guy with the money then ill remove everything,while hes here or he can help me im just a single guy here with a 3 car garage,with a race car hobby,let me know
> >
> > On [2011-10-17 13:27:42] Saltflatjunky wrote:
> > > He has cash on him I only deal in cash no banks no checks no deposits just cash!
> > > Yes use the list as we talked about everything else stays.
> > > I would like the wheels for the price I am paying.
> > >
> > > When will it be ready to go? So he can stop pay load and leave.
> > >
> > > David Morlan
> > > In the Lord we trust
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On [2011-10-17 13:04:19] jayss10 wrote:
> > > > XXXX XXXX XX XXXX (street address x'd out),peru indiana 46970 send cash i dont like checks,let me know what you have to have with it so its ready for you, im assuming same as we talked about earlier,do you have to have the wheels wityh it or can i replace them with rollers ect.. i would like a deposit on it as i am pulling it apart
> > > >
> > > > On [2011-10-17 12:55:14] Saltflatjunky wrote:
> > > > > I will pay 15000.00 for body and rolling chassis
> > > > >
> > > > > I need location
> > > > >
> > > > > I can have my driver to your door next Monday or sooner if its ready.
> > > > >
> > > > > On [2011-10-17 01:04:07] jayss10 wrote:
> > > > > > 15,ooo and at that price i cant even buy me what i want you get what you want for that price,so thats it if not ok i understand,i wanted a 55 chevy or a chevelle 10.5 theres not 1 nice 1 on here for even close to that price,so up to you if yes lets get it done let me know what you need on the car ,ill let you know if it works for me, im the same as robert about the willys id trade it even with a motor and trans in it if it will runs 9s 1/4 mile for this complete
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On [2011-10-17 00:58:09] Saltflatjunky wrote:
> > > > > > > Ok one last time! How much do you want? I need a price. I wont play a game so give me a price please.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On [2011-10-17 00:33:15] jayss10 wrote:
> > > > > > > > and of course i will take a better cash offer also for got to say that
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On [2011-10-16 23:43:18] Saltflatjunky wrote:
> > > > > > > > > How much do you want for the body?
NOT ONCE WAS A OWNED TITLE OR BILL OF SELL IN THIS MANS NAME ASKED IN THESE EMAILS ----I THINK YOU DID NOT GET THE DEAL YOU WANTED ON YOUR [EXACT TERMS] SO YOU GOT UPSET AND CAME ON HERE BASHING THIS SELLER
SORRY BUT YOUR STATEMENTS DO NOT RING UPFRONT BUT DOUBLE TALK INSTEAD
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11-12-2011, 06:37 AM
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Junky:
Couple questions:
What was your relationship to the owner of the Chevelle? The one JaysS10 made the trade with?
What was the date that you found our about the Chevelle and the trade? When did you know?
Just curious.
As a retired attorney, I am sure you are used to asking questions like this so answering them shouldnt be a problem, and as a retired Bishop I'd guess that honesty would be a priority.
Thanks,
Scorp
Couple questions:
What was your relationship to the owner of the Chevelle? The one JaysS10 made the trade with?
What was the date that you found our about the Chevelle and the trade? When did you know?
Just curious.
As a retired attorney, I am sure you are used to asking questions like this so answering them shouldnt be a problem, and as a retired Bishop I'd guess that honesty would be a priority.
Thanks,
Scorp