i totally agree with you roadkill. back in the l;ate 70s i went up against a so-called trained firearm instructor in a shootin match. i think i was about 25 or so. he was well old.anyway we had 2 targets each and our choise of weapons. i picked my 22 mag. western style pistol and a 357. dont remember what lenght the barrel was but it was almost as long as my 22.both my were revolvers and his werte autos. a 9 mm and a 45. i think.anyway he fired over 20 times and i fired 12. 6 per gun. with either of my guns i just picked it up quickly aimed and fired he would hold his with both hands one sittin in the other and took a long time to fire. i just snapped them off so to speak. i dont remember what he shot that day but i do rememebr him mad as hell and wantin to know where i learned to shoot. i did tell him i was a outlaw in my other life and had to fight alot of sherriffs.he didnt take to kindly to that statement. lol. then he trys to get me disqualified because i was a quest and not a member of their gun club.that was the last time i went up against the law in a gun fight..lol. i wonder if it will be the last lol